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First, many thanks for this forum - there are some good posts on here and the majority of posters seem to be really into their subject. Refreshing.

Now, what's an old fart like me doing on a site/forum that should really be aimed at Generation 'Y' and after? I'm so old that they call us 'baby-boomers'. That's about Generation 'B', then.

It's simple, really. The cube is an amazing vehicle, so long as you recognize it for what it is and what it isn't. I think it's for me. I'm presently running a Versa SL - a 2008, purchased in Sept. 2007, CVT, and fully loaded. About 13,000 miles on the clock (bear with me here - I'm an English old fart, living on Vancouver Island, BC, so I have a problem with the foreign language and foreign measurements etc., although why you guys had to mess up the gallon is way above my pension scale).

I love the Versa, but it's flawed. Big time. The seat cushions are too short, the dead pedal is about 2 inches too far away (even for my strapping 5' 8 1/2") and the rear seat/cargo arrangement is an ergonomic disaster area. The latter is the worst aspect. Apart from not having a flat floor from front to back (oh, why didn't they have a folding rear seat?), you can't keep a conventional dog barrier in place, particularly with the back seat folded (and this gives so much extra room that it's amazing) because the roof slopes so much that the barrier just pops forward as soon as one of the Labs leans on it. Despite these flaws, it's a great car. Roomy, comfortable, (mostly), peppy and returns me consumption figures that once were only a dream. So why should I change to a cube? Simple, really. It's got the same engine and drivetrain (SL with CVT) and it's just so easy to drive. Talking of driving, I've only done a 25 mile road test in it. A week ago. A mix of highway, bumpy and rough backwoods road and a route through a large urban sprawl of of stop and start.

So why would I change? Well, I don't actually want anyone standing and staring at me, but I know they're going to! But this is the first time in over 60 years that I'm going to be in on the ground floor of a cult. I missed Haight-Ashbury, but this just could be better. It's the room. More inside than a Tahoe or Mercedes S-Class. The front seats are better than the Versa's and I can reach the dead pedal. The driving position is about perfect and the visiblity is is exceptional. It's got about every bit of safety equpment on it known to the patron saint of petrolheads. But it's that back seat that does it for me. It slides forward and gets fixed at 3.9 or 6 inches from the rearward position, and the seat backs tip to the vertical. With a vertical back door, that rear cargo space has damn nearly as much cube as my not lamented, late Mercury Sable circa 1996. By contrast, the Versa's back seat is fixed at about 15 degrees and the hatch door about the same. Labs sit in a pyramid, but the cube offers them, well, a cube.

But the cargo space is still flawed! I don't need to get an upright fridge/freezer in there. I just want to have my two Labs but, as it is, how are they going to see out of the windows? Where is the flat floor that I could have designed for Nissan if they had just come and asked? Oh, the cargo organizer? Well, the salesman tells me that is only good for the rear seat in its most rearward position (I shall actually see for myself on Tuesday, Sept 8), so what use is that? The floor should be level - whether at the low level and rear seat tipped right over or with a false floor and the seat as is. It would then be perfect. Simple things, but they just irritate.

The rest is perfect. It's not a sports car. It will return an incredible mileage if you drive it and respect it for what it is and it will save your pocket book.. I love it, and I'm going to buy that Bitter Choc (Espresso Bean up here in the Tundra) they have reserved for me in Victoria, Auto Cliimate, Traction Control and sweet sound player. But no funky accessories. An old fart is an old fart, and the only shag carpet I want to know about is on the floor.

The questions? Oh, yes. Where is the blasted passenger seat armrest? I'm already getting grief about the lack of the centre armrest/pocket that her indoors loves about the Versa, but even a nod at a companion rest for the driver's one would not go amiss. Has anyone thought of getting a replacement driver's seat armrest from Japan? Does the passenger seat have the right mounting etc.? That has to work, surely? Colour? The Japanese must love 'black cloth', so it's a no-brainer isn't it?

The other question: Is that 'cargo organizer' made to fit the space behind the rear seat as it is fully rearward, at 3.9 inches forward, or at 6 inches forward? Sure, I'm going to find out on Tuesday, but I would like to know NOW! I suspect I'm going to have to visit a cabinet maker, get him to build me a lockable false floor and then a car upholsterer will have to cover it in charcoal floor covering - it'll probably come out cheaper than the 283 canajun plus tax they want for the plastic box with polystyrene supports they are demanding in the frozen north.

Thanks for letting me rant.

For the sake of clarity, I have no connection with any car dealer in BC. Please make all cheques payable to the English Benevolent Society for Distressed Lawyers.

Cubism works! Just ask an old square.
 

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James,

Welcome to the Cube, prepare to be assimilated!

No, the passenger seat isn't equipped for an armrest; needs an internal brace. Yes, it's a stoooopid oversite but Japan gets a bench like seat so no one probably thought about it until it was too late. DOH! But we are working on a solution. I've made a template and Dink76 is working on a permanent solution:

http://www.nissancubelife.com/forum/index.php?topic=857.0

As far as the cargo solution, a plywood cutout covered with carpeting would be child's play for any woodworker/shop and probably much cheaper too. I prefer the "well" for grocery getting and carrying larger items that won't store underneath a door so I'd want an easily removable cover instead of the OEM box.
 

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Welcome to the forum James. :yes:
Where on the island are you? I am in Cordova Bay Victoria.
I am originally an English old fart but I have been in Canada for so long I have forgone the "English" bit. ;)
I guess you are going to Campus Nissan.I saw a Chocolate Cube there when I was there a few days ago.
Yours maybe?
I took delivery of mine from Campus on June 9th after buying it on June 6th the anniversary of day I sailed for Canada on the Empress of France and if that does not date me I don't know what does! :roll:
So far I have only seen two Cubes here.
One like mine in Platinum grey [prefer the Japanese Twilight grey wording] by the 6 Mile pub and more closer to home a Chocolate one going into Broadmead shopping centre as I was leaving another exit.
I did not test drive my Cube as I knew it was what I wanted and I was right.
Like you I have the same observations and will have to do a bit of modifying.
By the way Canadian Tire has some well matched floor runner to the charcoal grey flooring colour.
Cheers for now,
Bryan.
 

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fotomoto,

Brilliant, thanks. I should have looked around a bit more! I'll Nip over to that forum in a second.

Yes, a cargo box should be simple. I've already got a couple of blueprints drawn up. Well, they're more like scribblings on the back of a cigarette packet, but they have the same effect.

The simple solution is just to make a 4-sided frame to fit, with a loose plywood top cut to pattern - some skill will be required there, so that's a professional job. It will probably need a central runner underneath, as the 2 Labs run to about 120 lbs together, and that will give extra rigidity anyway. A car upholsterer should have carpet to near enough match. I think the end piece which will butt to the rear seat may also have to be covered - to avoid any rubbing damage. Similarly, the carpet will have to be fitted over the 4 sides of the top, to avoid scuffing the vinyl on removal and replacing etc. Also, the top must allow for enough clearance for the rear seat to tilt and recline without jamming or rubbing. In addition, there will need to be a small half-oval cut out by the rear lip, to enable easy lifting with one finger. The top will have to fit fairly tightly, as there must not be room for a dog's paw to get trapped.

Thickness of ply? A question of strength versus manageable weight, I suppose. 1/4" may be too flimsy, 1/2" too heavy, so 3/8" may do it. The pro will have the answer, though.

My second solution is 2 boxes, side by side, with hinged lids, one lockable. On reflection, though, this seems like overkill and unnecessarily complicated and expensive.

Frame and loose top it is, then. Just needs a guy who can cut the pattern so we end up with a cargo area that looks as though it could have come from the factory. If we get it right, it will transform the rear completely and make it much more usable, for me, anyway. Plus the Labs will be able to see out!

(OK - so I lied. I hadn't thought of the loose lid solution until I read your comment. You hadn't patented it, though, had you? ;-)

Thanks again. Order of the Cube for you, I think.

James.
 

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Morning, Bryan

Thanks for the welcome. Small world, eh! I'm up in ******* country - Lake Cowichan - with the bears and cougars.

The Empress was named the same year as me. Quite the gal, she was. I just Googled her (sorry, no idea how to insert a link here). She sank a U-Boat!

Yes, I'm using Campus Nissan. I got my Versa there. I quite like them, even though they seem to be able to part me from my money fairly easily. The Nanaimo dealer is closer, but they were not on the ball when I went Versa hunting 2 years ago.

You probably saw the Espresso Bean (where do they get these names from?)/Bitter Chocolate demonstrator - there is another one, which will be mine on Tuesday if the figures stack my way (and after 2 days detailing the Versa, they ought to). I tried to prise the demonstrator away from them, but they are not budging!

Until last Saturday, I had not even heard of the cube. We had gone to Campus for a free oil change etc. before going to lunch (at The Empress!). There was a red one outside the showroom, awaiting collection by new owner ("Sold - To Very Nice People") but I rather ignored it. While sipping the free coffee, I lifted a few brochures and started with the cube one. I realised its potential at once, so we went outside to check the red one, found a salesman and off we went for a test drive. This is the 3rd Nissan I've tested over the same route (Rogue was the other one) - up Hwy 1 to the lower end of the Malahat, then left to drive the Humpback and back into town via the Sooke road. It's got a bit of everything, so you get quite a good idea. It was the best ride I've ever had over the Humpback's potholes and bumps.

I plied she who must be obeyed with copious amounts of an Okanagan Merlot that evening and she fell for it! She will insist it was the other way round, but women will twist anything. ;-)

The armrest is going to be something that comes between us (or not), I suspect, but there must be a solution out there, just waiting to be found.

If I don't go for the Choc, the Platinum will be the next choice, I think.

Delighted to hear you made a good choice - that helps convince me. And thanks for the Canadian Tire tip.

And no, I'm not going near any of the accessories - there's only so much funky an old F can take!

We'll be in touch, I'm sure.

Regards, James.
 

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Good Morning James,
Have a great Cube delivery day on Tuesday.
I imagine you are excited as I was. :yes:
Takes me back when you mentioned "The one who must be obeyed"!
I hope she is excited too.
I think Amazon UK will have the whole series on DVD.
Should be sunny tomorrow.
Have sent you separate mail.
Cheers,
Bryan.
 

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Hi, hana.

No, not yet. But I should have it in about 45 minutes! Or, at least, when I 'phone the dealer in Victoria and confirm the deal. I had to get management approval last night, which was a bit tricky, as we only had about 1/3 of a bottle of wine in the house, but I think the chocolate tipped the scale.

I met and had lunch with CubeLuvIt yesterday. Amazing chap. He's put in some of his own accessories - better than Nissan's and at a fraction of the price. We are going to form an Island Chapter, which may cover the whole of BC in no time. We are going to need leather jackets and a logo - can you do designs?

Cubism - not ageism!

Regards. JW.
 

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James,

You can buy a cargo insert with lift lids (the right one locks). Check out some pictures here at the site. Welcome.

Patrick
 

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Hello, Patrick

Yes, I got the dealer to haul a box out of stock yesterday and put it in the back of the cube in the showroom. Several things work against it. That is, for me, anyway. It's a tad flimsy for my purposes (2 Labs run about 120lbs and they are not exactly dainty when the jump in the back of a car); it sits on a base of about 1" thick polystyrene (cheap and wasteful); it has to be secured by Velcro (annoying); it only fills the well with the rear seat in the rearward position; it costs $383 Canajun!

Taking a closer look yesterday, and using a tape measure to compare with my Versa, the most efficient space for me is with the rear seat at 3.9 inches forward and the back rests vertical - you can still get passengers in, although that is a very rare event for me, and never for very far, and still gives me room for shopping bags behind the front seats. The cubic area will be over twice that of the Versa, which also has a sloping hatch.

So, it's definitely make my own time. With a professional to cut the lid to pattern, and then covered in flooring material, it should like a factory fitting (well, that's the plan). Plus, I'll get storage space sufficient to load soft luggage for two. Materials: $40 max. Labour: say $50. Getting want I want: Priceless. ;-)


James.
 
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