I'm sad to see threads like this. My personal experience with both the sales team AND the finance people at the Dealership where I bought mine (Zimbrick on the eastside of Madison - shoutout to John and Mike) was great. John, the sales guy, was totally no pressure straight forward and all that. Mike (we called him "Mike the Magic Money Man") just crunched the numbers and made it work for us. OR maybe we just caught the finance man on a good day. 