ya when you start getting into the 19-20k mark you can jump into a different car alltogether. I dont know if the pricing will be a gouge for the first few months cause they need to sell cars. They might work with you a bit.
A plan B?
After seeing the cube yesterday for the first time I was impressed :yes:. . . but now that I've been going over the math I'm starting to have 2nd thoughts. Once I'm done with cube S W/CVT mudflaps & An alarm the car will sticker @ 16,660$ (Invoice @ 16,047$). If the dealer I pre-ordered @ is willing to sell me one at this cost The car with tax & tags will then cost ~18,500 & that's not including Doc Fees & advertising fees, Which if the dealer is gonna tack on Such fees ( I was told 398$ is their usual) ,and as the ad fees are assessed from Nissan,they are still an unknown :-\ .This simple car will crash thru my upper ceiling and blast past 19$k :no:.I wish the dealer wasn't playing so coy the last time we spoke claiming he hadn't yet gotten his pricing and so couldn't say. . But are you folks out there willing to pay a premium to be an early owner? Are you people expecting discounts? Or do you think for the first few months, its gonna be price gouging galore? I'm now thinking about another car that fits my bill of ^ Mpg ,& ^ utility but wont blast past that 18,500 mark.
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I'm allergic to ADP (Additional Dealer Profit), but the dealers don't have much markup to play with. I told people that there was a 90% chance I'd buy one over Memorial Day, figuring the early adopters would have paid their premium by then. But given the late deliveries to the dealers, I'm now down to a 50% probability, and may wait until July 4th weekend to buy one.
From what I've gathered the dealers aren't ordering that many. The car that I've planned on getting was added into the dealers may allotment, and they did so 'cause they didn't order the full # that they could. I'm thinking its gonna be sparse pickings out there for the first month or two @ least. I'm also thinking they % chance of my getting a cube (this year) has fallen from 90% > 15%.
Of course, those other fees you mentioned would apply to any other new car you purchased as well. For what it's worth, one dealer in my area has a Krom for sale with $3000 of "ADM" (Additional Dealer Markup) for a total price of over $24K! Another dealer is offering Cube with ony $2000 of ADM.
Master C, I just went to check out the Cube and finally sat in it. It is merely an econo-car with a cubed shape.MasterKC said:Of course, those other fees you mentioned would apply to any other new car you purchased as well. For what it's worth, one dealer in my area has a Krom for sale with $3000 of "ADM" (Additional Dealer Markup) for a total price of over $24K! Another dealer is offering Cube with ony $2000 of ADM.
The price is a little hefty considering if I were to spend a little more, I would be able to get a nicely equipped Rouge!!! If you really want to spend $ 3000 and want a Cube ASAP, I would suggest getting a JDM version with all the bells and whistles --stuff we can't get here like xeon lights, Sunroof, AWD, Bench-seats, etc for a for about $ 24k...
Woody-
That's sort of the point: I want a Cube, but I'm not going to pay ADP. For the first time since 1970, someone makes a car I want to buy, but I'm in control. My only vehicle that I trust for long trips only gets 10 miles per gallon, so whenever I go on a long trip, I rent from Enterprise, and the cost (including gas) comes to around $0.10 a mile. When I buy the Cube and drive it on those same trips, it is going to cost something like $0.25 a mile, so I'm not in any hurry. When PT Cruisers came out, dealers where getting $6K or more ADP, but within 6 months, those same dealers were offering rebates. When the new Thunderbirds came out, dealers were getting $13K ADP, and the car was cancelled after only a couple of years due to poor sales. Every paycheck I get, the amount I can afford as a downpayment goes up, and the monthly payments go down. At some point (hopefully in the next two months), I'll be able to buy a Cube at between invoice and MSRP. If not, I may just wait until Sepbember. I have running vehicles, I can rent for long trips, and I'll buy when the time is right. Gawd, car salesmen must HATE people like me.
That's sort of the point: I want a Cube, but I'm not going to pay ADP. For the first time since 1970, someone makes a car I want to buy, but I'm in control. My only vehicle that I trust for long trips only gets 10 miles per gallon, so whenever I go on a long trip, I rent from Enterprise, and the cost (including gas) comes to around $0.10 a mile. When I buy the Cube and drive it on those same trips, it is going to cost something like $0.25 a mile, so I'm not in any hurry. When PT Cruisers came out, dealers where getting $6K or more ADP, but within 6 months, those same dealers were offering rebates. When the new Thunderbirds came out, dealers were getting $13K ADP, and the car was cancelled after only a couple of years due to poor sales. Every paycheck I get, the amount I can afford as a downpayment goes up, and the monthly payments go down. At some point (hopefully in the next two months), I'll be able to buy a Cube at between invoice and MSRP. If not, I may just wait until Sepbember. I have running vehicles, I can rent for long trips, and I'll buy when the time is right. Gawd, car salesmen must HATE people like me.
They also hate me as well. Sometimes I go to the same dealer 3x's in 4 months to see what is new on the floor. One dealer
told me to either buy a car today or walkout. Well, I'm glad that his dealership went out of business (G/C VW-New Hyde Park NY) because it is curious people like us that want to eventually buy something nice. My '99 GTI already has 90.000
so I want something fresh, functional and very economical but I stay away from dealers that are "bastards".
Let us know how things go or visit my website and check in time to time.
-Woody
www.thecarnerds.com
told me to either buy a car today or walkout. Well, I'm glad that his dealership went out of business (G/C VW-New Hyde Park NY) because it is curious people like us that want to eventually buy something nice. My '99 GTI already has 90.000
so I want something fresh, functional and very economical but I stay away from dealers that are "bastards".
Let us know how things go or visit my website and check in time to time.
-Woody
www.thecarnerds.com
Woody-
I check your website, just not often enough!
To keep a Cube flavor here, that rebadged Fiat Panda on your website is another competitor to the Cube. With that thing becoming available, and the Ford Vista, the Cube niche is becomming smaller and smaller.
I check your website, just not often enough!
To keep a Cube flavor here, that rebadged Fiat Panda on your website is another competitor to the Cube. With that thing becoming available, and the Ford Vista, the Cube niche is becomming smaller and smaller.
MC,
I really think the USDM version needs more packages or more standard features to really make it blossom. The Fiat Panda/Jeep Phoenix seems to have a lot more value (4x4 in a small package) without spending a significant amount of money. My guess is that that vehicle will probably be somewhere between $ 18-23k. Why not sell the Cube here with those same features(see my earlier comment about JDM features) and zap all the potential Scion and Kia buyers at one time!!!!!!
Nissan's planning team seems to underestimate most US buyers...
Thanks for visiting my site and go ahead and please make your own critics about each story.
- WT
I really think the USDM version needs more packages or more standard features to really make it blossom. The Fiat Panda/Jeep Phoenix seems to have a lot more value (4x4 in a small package) without spending a significant amount of money. My guess is that that vehicle will probably be somewhere between $ 18-23k. Why not sell the Cube here with those same features(see my earlier comment about JDM features) and zap all the potential Scion and Kia buyers at one time!!!!!!
Nissan's planning team seems to underestimate most US buyers...
Thanks for visiting my site and go ahead and please make your own critics about each story.
- WT
For the people reading this thread that want to buy now, don't forget about Ebay. Last night, there were 2 Kroms for sale, with "buy it now" prices about $200 to $300 over MSRP, which probably doesn't even cover the listing fees. One was in Ohio, and another was in North Carolina.
On Ebay there is also a bastard dealer in Indiana that wants $19,780 for a Cube S with a CVT, which I think is about $3000 over MSRP.
Today I went with plan "B" an 08 Scion xD bought as a CPO W/ 10k miles. Out the door it was comfortably less than the cube's MSRP. Which, when I went to the Nissan dealer and did talk price they told me that there would be NO wiggle room down from.The cube was my goal car but the #'s just didn't work for me. I guess I now have a plan "C" , if in 2 years I'm not happy W/ the Scion it should still have kept enough its cost to apply towards the cube I'll want then.
Not worth it. I would go get a FIT for $3K lessToThe3rd said:After seeing the cube yesterday for the first time I was impressed :yes:. . . but now that I've been going over the math I'm starting to have 2nd thoughts. Once I'm done with cube S W/CVT mudflaps & An alarm the car will sticker @ 16,660$ (Invoice @ 16,047$). If the dealer I pre-ordered @ is willing to sell me one at this cost The car with tax & tags will then cost ~18,500 & that's not including Doc Fees & advertising fees, Which if the dealer is gonna tack on Such fees ( I was told 398$ is their usual) ,and as the ad fees are assessed from Nissan,they are still an unknown :-\ .This simple car will crash thru my upper ceiling and blast past 19$k :no:.I wish the dealer wasn't playing so coy the last time we spoke claiming he hadn't yet gotten his pricing and so couldn't say. . But are you folks out there willing to pay a premium to be an early owner? Are you people expecting discounts? Or do you think for the first few months, its gonna be price gouging galore? I'm now thinking about another car that fits my bill of ^ Mpg ,& ^ utility but wont blast past that 18,500 mark.
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