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horn questions

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I often have to drive through a city that has an insane amount of Gomers wearing retard helmets and leotards who play with their bicycles in traffic.

The Cube factory horn is useless, no doubt the Gomers cannot hear it with their ear buds in.

I replaced it with an old ear splitting FLAMM that does the job nicely, but soon after replacing it the horn quit working, and I have no voltage at the horn.

My questions are :

1) Exactly where is the horn fuse and relay?
2) is it possible to buy a better relay that handles more current?
3) Will the wiring handle me increasing the fuse size? No doubt the FLAMM draws more current than the wimpy horn that was in there.



I cannot find a fuse in the dash/door panel fuse box, I've discovered the one under the dash near the battery, which looks like a terrible design that changing a fuse appears to require unplugging the entire electrical system.

Doing without a horn just isn't safe considering I drive in that particular area,
I would very much like to get it up and going again.
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It's either the 10a fuse or the relay. Both should be on the drivers side fuse box. Open door and the end of the dash there is a panel, pull off and see fuses and relay's.
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if you go to ebay you can buy a relay set up for a horn that has a separate relay and a separate fuse, its pretty much plug and play. no fancy wiring to do.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Horn-Wir...JXYnQg&vxp=mtr
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It's either the 10a fuse or the relay. Both should be on the drivers side fuse box. Open door and the end of the dash there is a panel, pull off and see fuses and relay's.
I looked there before I posted.
There is no socket for a horn fuse there, or for a gang socket that includes the horn.
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It's either the 10a fuse or the relay. Both should be on the drivers side fuse box. Open door and the end of the dash there is a panel, pull off and see fuses and relay's.
I am certain it is the fuse or relay, but I can find neither.
Looking at the inside fuse box was my first action in troubleshooting after making sure the horn compressor was working properly.
I was a bit surprised at not finding a socket for either a dedicated horn signal or a ganged socket.

There is another fuse box under the hood, that is quite strange, it appears as though all of the cars electronics go through it. The lid pops of the receptacle and all the fuses and relays appear to be attached to the underside of the lid.
I assume that is where the relay is, which would logically imply that the fuse is next to it.
The problem is that in order to get to it you about have to disconnect all the many jacks that attach the panel to the wiring.
I would rather know for certain it is all there before messing with taking that all apart only to find it is a dead end.

If it is there then the rest is a cakewalk, I take it all apart, put a bigger fuse in ( which, I am certain the wiring could take the current, the only weak link would be the relay, which probably governs the fuse value).
I am hoping I can merely pop in a higher current relay and up the fuse 5 amps.

As I say, I would prefer to know exactly where both the relay and fuse are, knowing that would save me a lot of headache.

This is really more complex than it should be, back in the 70s I could just pop a fuse out of my 66 Volvo and pop another in. Everything else could take just about any zap you could put to it.


Also, the factor number for the relay would make spotting it easier too.

I appreciate the responses.
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It should be under the hood.It is a 10 amp fuse with the #35 by it in the drawing. The relay has the #E5 by it in the diagram.
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It should be under the hood.It is a 10 amp fuse with the #35 by it in the drawing. The relay has the #E5 by it in the diagram.

Thank you very much for the response.
So far under the hood there are two places for fuses, one is on some kind of power block that is attached to the battery, the other is a tupperware looking container that the underside of the lid is a gang for what appears to be the entire cars wiring, with a bunch of connectors attaching the wiring from various places to it and quite a few fuses.

Do you know if the fuse is in that "tupperware" box? As I say, I would rather not disconnect all of that to get to the underside of it if I don't need to, and I might be able to get under it with some mechanics tongs and a mirror if I know what I am looking for in advance.
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